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Posts: 97 05/16/12 7:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None
darkenspirit		#1	[-]
Posts: 2178 05/16/12 7:20 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hoops1 have you talked to anyone about how you are feeling? Or is this your first port of call? Lizzy whom has had similar thoughts in the past and you really need to get to someone right now and talk to them. Pick up the phone now call someone to come over and talk with you- maybe the wine is leading you at the moment....If not ring the hot-line pinned to the top of the page here - call them NOW and have a chat..
m2anne		#2	[-]
Posts: 116 05/16/12 7:32 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hey hoops 1, I agree with darkenspirit, seek help first: How long have you have tinnitus? I also felt the same way when I got the big "T", first of all seek the appropriate help and get checked out, secondary, the great support board offers their help if you pm them. They are a great bunch...you know the board gets a little crazy at times but I am worried about the way you feel. Trust me..there are many have felt that way but please be care of taking the wine and diazepan. It's a tough thing to deal with. I have more bad days then good days, it sure affects your life...but realize there are many of us with tinnitus and you are not alone and feel free to pm me as well. Consider smn 'soffer of the Tinnitus Book he is offering. I am going to start that one as well. But follow request on the board, no email, no snail mail...He's a really good guy.. I know its not a prescribed medicine that would sure help alot of illness, but this tinnitus is a totally different ballgame it has its own time frame and plays itself every day...anne
smn		#3	[-]
Posts: 3116 05/16/12 7:38 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hoops1 wrote: I really hate it when people say that tinnitus probably didn't cause those people to commit suicide and that there probably was other factors like depression and this is coming from people with tinnitus on these boards? idiots, ... Well, hoops, even though you apparently consider me to be an idiot, I respectfully disagree. Suicide in tinnitus is a topic that has actually been studied in the literature. And it turns out that the suicide rate in the tinnitus population is the same as in the non-tinnitus population. smn
Urusaidesune		#4	[-]
Posts: 957 05/16/12 7:54 PM TSMB Supporter Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hoops, your post reminds me of how I was with tinnitus not so long ago. I didn't admit it on here but I drank very heavily for quite a long time, mainly because alcohol made me feel drowsy. So I went on benders because the amount of time I spent asleep was time away from the wretched cacophony in my head. Eventually, I emerged from this period. But while I was locked into it, there seemed to be no escape. None whatsoever. Alcohol (and benzos) were the only release. The perspective (and logic) you have right now may seem impeccable from the inside. And it is only retrospectively that I see things differently. How I emerged from this state was to give habituation one last shot. Fortunately, in extremis, the approach I tried (Mindfulness Based Cognitive Therapy - it's not the same as CBT) worked. Which shows that there is at least one person who had profound suicidal feelings and came out very much okay on the other side.
muttanjeff		#5	[-]
Posts: 2701 05/16/12 8:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	i went with that "oh man, it's bedtime and i get 8 hours of tinnitus free nothingness" for a good while ... the noise in your head feels like a virus ... and it goes on and on ... you really only have one way out and that is to fight, you have to talk to someone and let them know how you feel and keep posting here and try something new and then something after that hoops you would be amazed at how many people here tell a similar story but all of them turned a corner and found a way through this thing i don't agree about doctors, most of them would take away your pain in a heartbeat if they knew how but they just don't know what to do
Moz		#6	[-]
Posts: 1256 05/16/12 8:51 PM TSMB Supporter Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hoops, as others have stated, they were right where you are at one point in time. Heck, I was there too, just a short 3 months ago I actually thought of ways I could do myself in. This BS was killing me anyway, & nobody could tell me it wasn't. Screw this I said, I can't possibly live with this insanity going on inside my head. Nobody could live with this. I'm freaking doomed. My life is over I drank booze every night for 3 1/2 months. Honey, you forgot to pick up the rum/vodka/wine? Damn, I'll be back, have to run to the store. I know, I know, I can't keep drinking like this, but I have to. There's no way I could handle this without it. I have to drink to sleep. I have to drink so I can calm down about this noise. I have to drink because I just can't handle it I spoke to many people. Huh, what's that you say? Others have been there before me & gotten their lives back? Yeah right. You don't know what I'm going through, so shut up. I've had this BS for almost 4 months now & it will never get better. I cannot get over this. I never will. I will never be able to live with this, end of story... Some time passed. What in the h e double hockey sticks are you doing dude? I'm drinking every friggin night? I thought of ways to off myself? I must be out of my freaking mind. Man, this BS has me down for the count. That's it, I've got to get myself together & wake the "you know what" up. I've had it allowing this BS to control me & my destiny. Screw you Mr. T, you ain't going to win Now, a little over 6 months in, my unfreakingbelievably loud, intense, super high frequency tinnitus, the thing that gave me massive stress & anxiety every waking hour, the thing that made my life a living hell, the thing that I could never, ever live with, is...... annoying. That's it. Today it's just ridiculously annoying. It's no longer life threatening, no longer life altering. It's the same exact thing it was 6 months ago, but I'm back to my normal life. I'm enjoying myself again. Don't get me wrong, it still sucks, but "sucks" & annoying is a heck of a lot better than where I was just 3 months ago hoops, you're still in your 20's. You've got your whole life in front of you. Think man, think. How do you break this stalemate you're at? Heck I don't know, but I know there's ways to do it. The passage of time takes the edge off most anything I'm not going to sit here & try to tell you what to do, because I'm sure you've read a lot about the various treatments & so forth, but you should knock off the thoughts about throwing in the towel. You're still reacting to it, but that will subside in time. And when it does, it get's easier & easier. Take it from someone who never dreamt that could be possible. Take it from someone who thought all the stories & advice about habituation were nothing but a load of doo doo Work on it man. The stuff said on this board isn't some far fetched, voodoo hype. It's real. So stop thinking your life is over & start thinking you've got some work to do. Start thinking it's only a matter of time before you're back to normal T's not worth it man. You've got a life to live. One day you'll look back on this & say "what the hell was I thinking?" Believe it I didn't believe it, but I do now Last Edited By: Moz 05/16/12 8:54 PM. Edited 1 times.
Oz Greg		#7	[-]
Posts: 21766 05/16/12 9:10 PM Under the Southern Cross. Admin. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I really hate it when people say that tinnitus probably didn't cause those people to commit suicide and that there probably was other factors like depression and this is coming from people with tinnitus on these boards? idiots, I bet that the tinnitus drove those now deceased people to depression and other emotional problems in the first place before they committed suicide, all primarily down to tinnitus. My tinnitus has got so bad now that it has ruined my life considerably and I can't even enjoy being awake anymore, I look forward to getting into bed and falling to sleep to take another break away from this horrid high pitched squeal in my head and I am in my late twenties, who knows how much worse it will get and what I will be like if I live for another ten years, my question is, if tinnitus has ruined my life this much then what is the point of trying to live when you can be at peace permanently? I'm sorry that you are feeling horrible Hoops. Hopefully your tinnitus becomes less of an issue as time passes and you slowly heal. This is what happened to me anyway, tinnitus became less of an issue in my life and now it's occasionally an annoyance but that quickly passes. I disagree with what you wrote about suicide. Even if you consider a person did take their life you can't say that it was the result of having tinnitus. Things are a bit more complex than that and there are other factors. I'll ask you this. Do you think that a sane, rationally thinking person would committ suicide? Do you think that somebody with tinnitus would consider using all the tools possible to overcome their tinnitus or just give up and take their life? Do you think your life is worth more than $3000? I can tell you that I know about suicide and I know why many people committ suicide. In many instances it is incognitive thoughts that causes people to suffer needlessly. I can tell you that I've had more sh_t than you can shake a stick at but the last place I want to be is in a box. When you're dead, you're dead and if anybody thinks that death is being at peace they are not thinking straight. Fact is that you can still have a good life even if you have tinnitus.
ringdin		#8	[-]
Posts: 522 05/17/12 1:21 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I agree with much of what hoops says. The belittling of tinnitus and the tinnitus patient. Thats very real. And much of the literature is litter. Witness all the papers extolling homeopathy or TRT. Tinnitus in its early stages is a rotten condition. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise, even smug former tinnitus sufferers. I remember my early stages when I was prescribed Tamazepam and Zopiclone which I didnt take. And the TRT i tried - I just needed one session to know it was rubbish. Luckily for me besides my GP who didnt know much, I know some very good docs who helped me greatly. someone who undertood my condition helped me enormously, he had been what I was going through and was selfless in his support. Tinnitus does get better over time, can seem impossible to believe at first, but it does happen. Initially you grind your way through it, in this phase Its important to use sound therapy, relaxation, look after and treat yourself. In my case I could never drink a quart of whisky every night, I relied on exercise, relaxation, nice walks. If you get yourself tired so you get some sleep thats great, my way of doing that was to exercise alot avoid coffee after say 3pm, and relax in the late evening. It took me ages to get my sleep back. I never had a problem sleeping. This idea perpetuated that the issues you encounter must be down to other issues is complete and utter tosh. Says more about them than about you. This idea is perpetuated by many tinnitus 'specialists'.
BeeBee		#9	[-]
Posts: 880 05/17/12 1:46 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hoops.. I can relate... i felt exactly as you felt... Posted exactly as you posted... You will not always feel that way.. I promise you that. My t is raging as I write this... Just screaming.. however I have no intention of doing myself in, or even feeling sorry for myself. I have had enough of that. .. I am going to jump in the bath to wash some of my manly stench out, get dressed and have some coffee and cookies, then its off to work, like any other day... Tinnitus or not... You need to look a these replies, life does get better, even if the T doesn't. Eventually your brain starts to get bored with an electrical signal it now knows isn't going to do it any harm, and moves on to other things... It just barely started for me, but I can tell it has started.. Very slowly, almost imperceptibly, but it has started, and will start for you as well in due time... Hang in there, we have ALL been through what you are going through, some are still in the middle of those awful feelings as we speak. I wish you all the best. We all do. bob
Sophie From Oz		#10	[-]
Posts: 25 05/17/12 3:26 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	What an awful situation, hoops. Tinnitus causes a considerable amount of despair in its first stage (which I myself am not yet out of), but take it from the posters above - Life with tinnitus gets better. If you get all the support you can the hard slog will become more manageable. Hang in there.
picktingag		#11	[-]
Posts: 165 05/17/12 8:10 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	And yes... pls do not belittle T sufferer... Not everyone is as strong emotionally as some members here are... Some are not as tough as you guys and the problems are very real... Just like pain... the threshold in enduring pain is different in every individual... And hoops1, I feel for you... you need to just hang in there... You will be ok...
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Posts: 97 05/17/12 6:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Last Edited By: 05/17/12 8:06 PM. Edited 3 times.
Lineman78		#13	[-]
Posts: 316 05/17/12 7:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Sit back and listen to everyones advice.Take it easy you are thinking irrationally,you need professional advice.
danik		#14	[-]
Posts: 2378 05/17/12 7:25 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hmm, living one year to the max...interesting. Building muscles good muscle will take you about a year by the way so thats a good goal. Once you get ripped you'll want to show it off. Hoops, so you have a noise in your head...the important thing is you have a gOOd nIGHTs sLEEp ! You see, you build muscle while you sleep, so be thankful for that. I personally feel suffering is all relative. I for example wish to be able to stop being afraid of going to sleep, laying for hours on end until maybe or maybe not I will pass out.
Moz		#15	[-]
Posts: 1256 05/17/12 7:50 PM TSMB Supporter Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hoops, you've got to find the right route to habituation, you're obviously stuck in the reaction phase. 7 years is a long time, but reaction is reaction, & no matter how long it takes, you've got to rid yourself of that. It's the first step, but something is holding you back Listen man, no one, & I mean no one can tell me about severe, intrusive tinnitus. My head is like a power companies main power generator. It's just a hotbed of pulsating, electric energy roaring inside my head 24/7. An extremely loud, high pitched, high frequency squeal that never lets up. I should be in the bowels of hell, & I was for roughly 4 months But something happened to me while I was there, I stopped reacting to it. I guess the reasons for it are many, but the point is I stopped reacting to it. Tinnitus scared the ever loving doo doo out of me, & when I was afraid of it, my life was not worth living. Every thought was doom & gloom. My life at that point was basically over But now? I still have the raging power generator going ballistic in my head 24/7, but it no longer scares me. When I lost the fear, I lost my reactions to it. And that I believe is your starting point. Be it 6 months or 7 years, reacting to it is reacting to it You've got to figure this BS out. You need to get some help from a real professional. I know there's not many out there, but there are some, & you need to contact one of them & get some help. Maybe smn knows someone in your area Your reaction to t is taking you down. You're stuck in a reaction rut. No matter how severe ones t is, when you lose your reaction to it, it becomes easier to handle. I haven't achieved perception habituation yet, but having lost my reaction to t, it's like night & day. So forget about all the witch doctors out there & find someone who can help you. Believe that there's someone out there who can get you on the right track I'll tell you this, if I can get over my bad reactions to the tinnitus I've got, anyone can. You can too, but it takes changing your mindset & believing in the process I'd say you're due for some relief. Go find it
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Posts: 97 05/17/12 8:03 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	sleep is only relief, I hope to have permanent sleep, feel free to delete this thread now, not point in me being here bringing others down, how do i delete my account? Last Edited By: 05/17/12 8:06 PM. Edited 1 times.
Oz Greg		#17	[-]
Posts: 21766 05/17/12 8:21 PM Under the Southern Cross. Admin. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	sleep is only relief, I hope to have permanent sleep, feel dree to delete this thread now, not point in me being here bringing others down. Most people with an incurable disease fight to stay alive. Whilst there is no cure for tinnitus there is still a pretty good life if you can overcome your demons. I thought I would never get through this BS but I managed to and what I found is that it's not the tinnitus it'self it's whether you give it breath. Unlike you I found that trying to fall asleep was a battle even when I felt exhausted and defeated. The daytime was usually busy so I was less aware of my tinnitus. I could'nt even watch tv without feeling like my T was coming out of the screen. At some point in my journey it started to get better. I can't remember when that happened but I'm now at a point where my T bothers me only briefly. I do know that stress and other issues aggravate tinnitus. Find solutions to those other issues and your tinnitus will become less invasive. I'm not sure why you are giving up but my daughter is going through a similar stage. I see her and see in her face a defeated look. I want to say "fight it" but I have said this before and it falls on deaf ears. I will say to you though that you have to fight it because I know as others also know that tinnitus is not a condition that has to make you feel miserable for the rest of your life. Stuff me but there is more sh_t that we have to face in our lifetimes that is far more serious and harder to overcome than tinnitus.
danik		#18	[-]
Posts: 2378 05/17/12 8:47 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hoops, nobody is going to delete this thread or your account. Maybe you can help me buy explaining any strategies you use to sleep, since your T is obviously loud, as mine is-I can hear it over traffic easily - and its not even a super duper sonic high pitch like a lot of folks. Are you able to sleep in silence? how do you do it? do you count sheep or use mental imagery? or do you just close your eyes and lights out? Thanks
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Posts: 97 05/17/12 10:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I can sleep because the high pitched hissing noise is at its quietest because the only noises I can heear are the ones in my head and they all eventually drown out the high pitch hiss because the high pitch hissing noise is actually the quietest noise of all from my tinnitus sounds but it is so high frequency that I can hear it most of the time, VALIUM helps
mortalkombat		#20	[-]
Posts: 135 05/18/12 2:18 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	does your t go away with music

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