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Daisy N MaseLLa	Habituation	Lead	[-]
Posts: 35 06/18/01 3:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dr Nagler i read ur post to MJonhson. It brought a tear to my eye. I have read ur story before on ur wed page. U suffered alot. Is nice to know theres TRT out there for people that need it. I want to say to MJohnson i also habituated my T . It could be down that's for sure. I have T a 1 1/2 and i got used to it. Im not saying my T and ur T is the same. But when i got it i heard it night and day. Now only at night. I'll be honest over time the T has subsided I forget i even have it. Did i habituated . Anyway Im sorry to hear ur T is loud. I dont know ur situation but i hope urs settles down. Maybe u should give Nagler a call maybe is worth ur while. Look what it did for him . I know if one day if my T gets worse im sure ill look him up. Goodluck
Kathi	Re: Habituation	#1	[-]
Posts: 283 06/19/01 10:32 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	To all those who have habituated, can you give any idea of techniques or exercises you may have used that might help those of us still suffering to begin to habituate? Or is it just a matter of listening to it and eventually learning to tune the T. out?
freddie	Re: Habituation	#2	[-]
Posts: 4312 06/20/01 1:57 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	the only method I used Kathi was do or die. I threw myself into every activity I could, read all I could, and in general tried to fill my life. Was not easy, and still not easy today. I still get bad patches (as right now). It did take me a long time, some 10 years of hell. With the help that is around at the moment, support boards, counselling, TRT, it should not take more than say 12 to 18 months to habituate if you get the right support.
jean2399	habituation	#3	[-]
Posts: 127 06/20/01 5:59 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, my method was sort of evolution. First there was T, sharp T, I was hoping that it will go away. It didn't. I was always monitoring it. It was intrusive, I could hear it at night, day, work, TV, sports, movie everywhere. I broke down several times, deep depressions, cried, and the cycle begins over and over again. I gave up hope. It was there, however slightly changing. I realized that it's always there, the difference is if I forget it or think about it, so I didn't look for it all the time. I didn't care. It was not intensious, I just forgot it. I am in this state now. I developed this attitude over years. However there are things that I take precautions with, tempratue, wind, noise, stress and I try to lead an active life with sports. I am not always successful on this though. If there is a setback, I have to keep in mind that there is strong chance to a recovery. My state didn't get worse since I developped T, I just had some severe setback (last one for 3 months). I think it is common. So my T is there all the time, but I don't care about it anymore. If I don't care it's not there. I know it's easier said than done, but I did it. I really suffered for a long time and now I am fine and the differnce is just ME!!!! You can do it too!
Stephen Nagler	Re: Habituation	#4	[-]
Posts: 2056 06/20/01 6:22 AM Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Kathi posted: To all those who have habituated, can you give any idea of techniques or exercises you may have used that might help those of us still suffering to begin to habituate? Or is it just a matter of listening to it and eventually learning to tune the T. out? ...... Everybody's different ... and everbody's tinnitus is different ... and everybody's tinnitus impacts everybody differently. In my own case, there was absolutely no way I could have habituated my tinnitus without TRT - believe me, I tried. I tried everything. Let's not forget after all that the term "habituation" was first introduced into the tinnitus lexicon by Jastreboff, who developed TRT. Before then - to the best of my knowledge - nobody ever used that term in connection with tinnitus. So, in order to habituate my tinnitus, Kathi, I did TRT. And since at that time there was only one place in the US that TRT as being offered (Baltimore), that's where I went. Habituation is certainly not the only way to effectively address tinnitus, but if habituation is what you are trying to do, then I'd suggest you at least consider TRT ... which is nothing more than a proven effective method for facilitating habtuation, a usually normal spontaneous process that in the case of severe intrusive tinnitus tends not to occur quickly enough (or sometimes at all) without some sort of facilitation! Stephen M. Nagler, M.D.
jean2399	Re: Habituation	#5	[-]
Posts: 127 06/20/01 6:48 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Of course Dr. Nagler is right. I didn't mean that it's sure that you can get used to it without help. I mean that this way or that way it's possible to grow habituated. My girlfriend has T in one ear and my best fried has T in both ears (I mean real T), however among them I suffer more. They never bothered about T that much and I suffered a lot. We don't even talk about T with my girlfrined, I like to talk about it she doesn't. Everybody is different.
susanne milthers	Re: Habituation	#6	[-]
Posts: 2018 06/20/01 11:35 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Last Edited By: susanne milthers 10/07/09 7:05 PM. Edited 1 times.
StarrL	Re: Habituation	#7	[-]
Posts: 530 06/21/01 5:18 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Susanne: Your post was very encouraging to me. I just received some information on TRT (which I would have to travel some distance to receive and would not be covered by my health insurance). I think I may be at the place where you formerly were. I have had intrusive tinnitus for about 6 months now. I guess I'm not "habituated" but rather "used to it". It seems as though there's a difference. Four months ago, I didn't know how I was going to live from one day to the next. Only my husband and kids kept me going. Now, I can function, but I still have so many bad days and feel so limited. I'm not the person I used to be, and I miss that person. I had been thinking that this is as good as it will get, but now I am thinking that maybe something like TRT might help, and maybe things can be a little better than they are. I'd appreciate more comments on this subject. Is there a difference between being "minimally functional" and "habituated"? And if so, might TRT (or some other treatment) be the answer? Prayer and humor are what has gotten me through so far!
Stephen Nagler	Re: Habituation	#8	[-]
Posts: 2056 06/21/01 5:52 AM Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	StarrL posted: Is there a difference between being "minimally functional" and "habituated"? ....... Well, again I feel that everbody is different, everybody's tinnitus is different, and everybody's tinnitus impacts everybody differently. And - again - I direct you all to www.tinn.com/overcome.html to give you an idea of my own situation prior to habituation. You ask if thyere is a difference between being "minimally functional" and "habituated." Well, I now have a full-time job that I enjoy immensely, now I spend another 10-15 hours/week in my volunteer duties as Chairman of the Board of Directors of the American Tinnitus Association, and right now I am at Indiana University spending a week with my son at soccer camp (yea, checking in nightly by phone with my wife and daughter in Atlanta). I'd say that in my own case anyway, that's a bit more than "minimally functional!" stephen nagler
susanne milthers	Re: Habituation	#9	[-]
Posts: 2018 06/21/01 7:51 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Last Edited By: susanne milthers 10/07/09 7:05 PM. Edited 1 times.
JeffreyLee	Re: Habituation	#10	[-]
Posts: 187 06/23/01 9:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I am curious. Is TRT, habituation with assistance for those who cannot habituate on their own? I would appreciate someone who knows TRT to reply. -Jeffreylee
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Posts: 0 06/23/01 11:16 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	.
Unregistered(d)	how i did it	#12	[-]
Posts: 0 06/23/01 11:25 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	T started one year ago. I was very nearly suicidal at first. I was close. The worst was trying to sleep. My T is sleep-related for unknown reasons. The hissing noise would change into a "wooshing" noise that sharply changed pitch as I was falling asleep and it would jar me awake. What I did - and I guess it sounds very silly - was to imagine that I was sleeping by the wall of a spaceship or a submarine on a long journey, and the hissing noises were coming from the engine or perhaps the passing water. I came to make myself think of the T as my friend, a "white noise" that soothed me to sleep. I became accustomed to it and I hardly notice it any more.
freddie	Re: how i did it	#13	[-]
Posts: 4312 06/24/01 3:11 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	what a sensible thing to do. Worth a try for anyone.

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