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sensi92	Tinnitus and Surgery	Lead	[-]
Posts: 152 12/17/03 1:07 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I am wondering if anyone who already had or maybe previously had tinnitus had their tinnitus start up or get worse after a surgery, even if the surgery was on a bodypart totally far away from the ears. Has anyone heard about the general anasthesia permanently or temporarily worsening tinnitus?
reph	Re: Tinnitus and Surgery	#1	[-]
Posts: 27329 12/17/03 1:29 AM Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	There's at least one example. I read a post recently from someone whose tinnitus started when she woke up after hip replacement.
TwirlyCL2	Re	#2	[-]
Posts: 500 12/17/03 6:37 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My T started about a week after I had carpal tunnel surgery last September.
britgrrrl	Re	#3	[-]
Posts: 1071 12/17/03 4:08 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	There is an article concerning this on ingenta.com, i posted it on here a while back. Researchers looked at the possibilities for acquiring tinnitus from noisy surgery..such as ortho' surgery...I think hip replacements where mentioned.
jchinnis	Re: Re	#4	[-]
Posts: 17219 12/17/03 4:47 PM Registered Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	In a hip replacement, noise exposure can be dangerous. Anaesthesia sometimes relieves tinnitus. Meniere's disease is also known for going into remission following any sort of surgery requiring general anaesthesia. Carpal tunnel surgery as a cause? One of the somatic influencers of tinnitus is stimulation of the median nerve. I think that's the one that gets compressed in carpal tunnel syndrome. Who knows? -- Jim Chinnis
Ronnald	> Re: Re	#5	[-]
Posts: 4901 12/17/03 5:26 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jim But a week after surgery?? That seems to be pushing it to say the surgery was the cause of it.
Mn2it	tinnitus/surgery	#6	[-]
Posts: 85 12/17/03 7:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mine started when I came out of surgery,Jet engine roaring in my head.I had brainstem surgery and they hit my hearing nerve. char
GayleJ	Re: tinnitus/surgery	#7	[-]
Posts: 2277 12/18/03 9:36 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My tinnitus actually started DURING surgery. It was simple surgery on my hammertoes but during the surgery I suddenly heard a buzzing in my ear and my head felt like I was up in an airplane. It kept getting worse but the stupid nurses just said "maybe you got water in your ear in the shower this morning" like I'm some kind of moron. They wheeled me out to be picked up by my husband and I told them several times that my head felt funny and I wasn't hearing well out of my left ear. Got home and one hour later was in the ER at our hospital with the severe vomiting, vertigo, numbness in toes and fingers etc. January 10th 2001. THe day my life changed forever. Gayle
TwirlyCL2	Re	#8	[-]
Posts: 500 12/18/03 12:31 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jim, I spoke with my aunt, (who by the way is an surgical nurse) and she said, yes T can and does sometimes happen a few days to a few weeks after surgery, though it is very rare. My aunt also has T, she got it from being exposed to all of the noises in the surgery room. She's had it for many many years.
sensi92	Re: Re	#9	[-]
Posts: 152 12/18/03 11:24 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This is interesting. Is there a lot of noise during surgery that doesn't involve drills? Or is it possibly from the anasthesia itself? What are people's experiences? <b>Sensi</b>
sensi92	Re: Re	#10	[-]
Posts: 152 12/22/03 3:34 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I am still wondering if there are any experiences, good or bad, from peopel with tinnitus who have had surgery. Anybody think the anasthesia made their tinnitius worse? <b>Sensi</b>
sensi92	Re: tinnitus/surgery	#11	[-]
Posts: 152 12/22/03 3:37 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	GayleJ, how did you get tinnitus from the hammertoe surgery. From the loud noise? And if there was no loud noise, then I assume it was a medication they gave you? Just curious. <b>Sensi</b>
freddie connor	Re: tinnitus/surgery	#12	[-]
Posts: 13708 12/22/03 8:43 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm going out on a limb here, but it is one of my opinions so here it is. There is now strong evidence that any surgery carried out on any part of the body albeit unconscious and out like a light is still registered deep in the psyche. This suggests that the trauma is felt implicitly and is held in one of the many sub conscious realms. Now trauma wont stay in the sub conscious without trying to make its presence felt. OK, we have seen trauma causing physical symptoms such as paralysis, stammer, rashes and many other things. Now it is my opinion that t after an operation might be just this. I can see many of you saying with a nodding head, who is this nutter. But I have met people who's (after a lot of delving and searching) life biography suggests trauma as the start of their tinnitus. All I am saying is we have to keep an open mind and get away from the tunnel vision that most professionals seem to hold. Freddie the mad un
hmcquade	Re: Tinnitus and Surgery	#13	[-]
Posts: 155 12/22/03 11:24 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This from another T website: Hi all, I had surgery for my tinnitus and it worked! I hope you all have had all the work ups needed to make sure it is one that can be fixed with surgery. I had all sorts of branches off the jugular. This is what the report said back in Nov. >>>>>The results said...........There appears to be an abnormal communication between a branch of the external carotid artery and the internal jugular vein. There is a typical fistula-type flow at the communication. It appears as though there is an artery that communicates with a branch of the external carotid. This branch is low resistant. This branch then appears to communicate with the jugular vein. At the confluence of the above two vessels, we note fistula-type flow.>>>>>>>>>>>> I had pulsatile tinnitus. But an ultrasound showed the blood flow issue after an arteriogram showed nothing! So don't give up if you have pulstile tinnitus and make sure you get the tests to show this! I found this through a link that was post a week or so ago on this site. HAPPY HOLIDAYS, HUGH
Dirkh	Re: Tinnitus and Surgery	#14	[-]
Posts: 6843 12/22/03 1:38 PM All around nice guy Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yep, pulsatile tinnitus sometimes has an objective cause that can be repaired: Dr. Abram Shulman, who directs the Martha Enteman Tinnitus Treatment Clinic in NYC, writes: "Objective tinnitus can be experienced by the examiner on auscultation of the auditory canal and/or of surrounding structures with use of an auscultation tube or stethoscope. The find on auscultation of a carotid bruit (noise) or a vascular bruit overlying the orbit and/or cranium may be a reflection of an arteriovenous (AV) malformation or fistula."(quote from Essentials of Otolaryngology, Third Edition). Dirkh
sensi92	afraid of surgery	#15	[-]
Posts: 152 12/23/03 3:14 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I have tinnitus right now, going on 3 years, and have a semi-elective surgery I am afraid to get because it could make the tinnitus worse. While I have tinnitus already, I greatly fear it gettting worse and it keeps me from getting a surgery that might benefit me. Anyone had any experiences like this?
linealdream	Re: afraid of surgery	#16	[-]
Posts: 2665 12/24/03 12:31 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	sensi92, Before I got my current tinnitus from noise exposure, I had tinnitus in one ear for many years. I had two operations, one with complete aneasthetic and one spinal. Neither of those operations affected my tinnitus in any way. That is just my experience. ld
GayleJ	Re: tinnitus/surgery	#17	[-]
Posts: 2277 12/26/03 11:51 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Sensi, I have absolutely no idea how the tinnitus started during the hammertoe surgery. Actually, I had one foot done the year before with no problems at all. Love to run so I was just trying to keep the feet ready to run!! Anyway, I told them I felt dizzy too, but they sent me home. About an hour later I go up to use the bathroom. Severe vomiting hit along with some vertigo and now the buzzing in my ear was like a jet engine. AND I immediately lost ALL the hearing in that ear. No loud noise- only lidocaine. I wasn't nervous, scared or stressed. Your guess as to what caused it is as good as mine. But it's here to stay along with deep inner ear pain and constant fullness. The pain often spreads to the entire left side of my brain and there are days when even the morphine they give me doesn't touch the pain. Doctors have debated whether it is Menieres or not because I have some of the symptoms. But tinnitus is the result of Menieres and doesn't start the attack. Gayle
sensi92	So GayleJ, was it the lidocaine	#18	[-]
Posts: 152 12/29/03 11:47 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	GayleJ, it sounds like you think it was "not" the lidocaine that caused your tinnitus? I am curious, what do you think the possible causes of your tinnitus are? Just your best guess is all I am wondering about? It couldn't have happened randomly. The surgery and sudden onset seem to coincidental.
sensi92	have heard that the anasthesia can cause tinn	#19	[-]
Posts: 152 12/31/03 4:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I have heard that the anasthesia itself can actually cause the tinnitus. It seems like a lot of people wake up after surgery with their tinnitus a lot worse, so it makes me suspicious.
sensi92	still wondering?	#20	[-]
Posts: 152 01/02/04 5:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Still wondering if anyone else has had or knows anything about the risks of tinnitus with surgery and how it happens.

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